Radar – by nexxworks: Never Normal Heroes –The New Rules of Leadership

The Radar Podcast launches its new series Never Normal Heroes with a frank conversation between Peter Hinssen and Frederik Anseel, Dean of the Sydney Business School and professor of leadership

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From Ghent to London and now Sydney, Frederik’s journey shows how his background in psychology shaped the way he studies leadership.

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He argues that while leadership can be explored through science, there is no quick five-step formula. The real task is to build collective capability—growing leadership across a team instead of depending on one hero at the top.

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Artificial intelligence is another focus of their discussion. It is transforming how we think and work, yet society and its institutions adapt far more slowly. Peter calls this world the never normal, where the future cannot be predicted. Frederik describes it as “running in the fog,” when leaders must move and adapt without waiting for perfect clarity.

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Such uncertainty demands a different kind of leader. Social skills, courage, and the ability to tell a clear story matter more than ever. Frederik urges companies to train entire leadership teams so they share a common mindset and the strength to pivot when needed.

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Frederik says companies should train whole leadership teams so they share a common mindset and have the strength to pivot when needed.

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The conversation also turns to the future of education. With AI making knowledge easy to access, Frederik warns of the risk of de-skilling and imagines a return to “modern monasteries,” where small groups master deep, fundamental skills before turning to technology.

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They close by asking whether today’s changes are truly different from past disruptions. Frederik leaves leaders with one simple challenge: start moving even when you do not yet know where you will end up.

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This opening episode captures the spirit of Never Normal Heroes: clear, insightful and grounded. It invites listeners to rethink how they lead and to keep moving forward even when the path ahead is uncertain.

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